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you can see all of the people protesting a decision by egypt's newly elected president, giving himself sweeping new powers. the protesters have classed with place in some of the demonstrations and just today, the judge announced they are suspending their work until president morsi rescinds those decrees. >>> this is santiago, chile, a new law requiring fishing quotas which independent fishermen say discriminates against them in favor of big operations. the law would allow fishermen to use gps systems which they say is another cost they just can't afford. >>> today, u.n. ambassador susan rice heads back to capitol hill to meet with two more republican senators. rice is trying to explain why she gave an incorrect explanation of the attack in libya. rice did not seem to rin over three -- to win over three senators at their meeting with them yesterday. the senators remain troubled by rice' comments, they say. but democrats would need five republican senators to vote for her confirmation if she's nominated. >>> president obama's inauguration for his second term will be on january 21, not th
you can see all of the people protesting a decision by egypt's newly elected president, giving himself sweeping new powers. the protesters have classed with place in some of the demonstrations and just today, the judge announced they are suspending their work until president morsi rescinds those decrees. >>> this is santiago, chile, a new law requiring fishing quotas which independent fishermen say discriminates against them in favor of big operations. the law would allow fishermen to...
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. >>> in news of the world tonight, in egypt, tens of thousands are protests in tehrere square. some accuse mr. morsi of high jacking the revolution. >>> behind blue tarps the remains of arafatt were exhumed. samples were taken to try to determine if arafat was poisoned. three separate forensic teams will examine them. arafat died eight years ago. tests have shown traces of a lethal radio active substance. >>> in greece, the money is on the way to save the country from bankruptcy. european financial backers agreed to release $57 million in loans that greece needs to stabilize its economy. greece leaders applauded the deal saying a dark time has ended but the loans will not mean an end to austerity measures including larger taxes and smaller wages. >>> time magazine announced their candidates for person of the year. they named marissa mayer, undocumented immigrants, mohammed morsi, psy is also on the list. and the mars rover is another nominee. the winner will be announced on december 14th. >>> the project now under way to light up the bay bridge. >> plus -- >> the elevated breas
. >>> in news of the world tonight, in egypt, tens of thousands are protests in tehrere square. some accuse mr. morsi of high jacking the revolution. >>> behind blue tarps the remains of arafatt were exhumed. samples were taken to try to determine if arafat was poisoned. three separate forensic teams will examine them. arafat died eight years ago. tests have shown traces of a lethal radio active substance. >>> in greece, the money is on the way to save the country...
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egypt is the most populous country in the arab world. it has been a leader for quite some time, a friend of the united states. you mentioned the suez canal. camp david accords, peace with israel. counterterrorism. there have been a lot of bad actors showing up in the sinai. thh gaza, palestinian issue. middle east peace. relations with iran. egypt was a strong bulwark, melissa, against iran's rise in the region. now they're talking about setting up diplomatic relations. in fact the new egyptian government let iranian warships go you there the suez canal for the first time since 1979. very important country to american interests in that part of the world. melissa: this turn of sentiment against america is a big problem. this is a big change from how it had been and is a big problem going forward, right? >> well, you know, you had the big thing during the campaign with president obama asked to describe relations with egypt. he didn't call them an ally. he didn't really call them a friend either. yeah, that is a significant change. the real
egypt is the most populous country in the arab world. it has been a leader for quite some time, a friend of the united states. you mentioned the suez canal. camp david accords, peace with israel. counterterrorism. there have been a lot of bad actors showing up in the sinai. thh gaza, palestinian issue. middle east peace. relations with iran. egypt was a strong bulwark, melissa, against iran's rise in the region. now they're talking about setting up diplomatic relations. in fact the new egyptian...
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. >>> egypt's new president faces biggest challenge to his power yet. hundreds of thousands of protesters rallying against his rule. one man who met with morsi is here to tell us if his days in office could be numbered. more "money" and money to grow mushrooms from coffee grounds coming up. ♪ . you stl think you're colder than me? nah. don tell me. tell tiny! [ce crackling ] [ knuckles cracking ] and who are you supposed to be, back-up? handle it. what you looking at? ha! cat-like reflexes... whoa! [ male announcer ] the coors light sier bullet pint. it's bigger. it's resealable. it's still the coldest. don't you do i don't you do it! [ male announcer ] frost brewed coors light. the world's most refreshing beer! ♪ . melissa: so gun sales blow the roof off black friday. get this. one gun and ammo store in texas saw their sales skyrocket 400% from a regular friday. from an average of $20,000, $78,000. what a day. patrick woods is the director of operations and development with spring guns and ammo. he is here to tell us all about it. patrick, welcome
. >>> egypt's new president faces biggest challenge to his power yet. hundreds of thousands of protesters rallying against his rule. one man who met with morsi is here to tell us if his days in office could be numbered. more "money" and money to grow mushrooms from coffee grounds coming up. ♪ . you stl think you're colder than me? nah. don tell me. tell tiny! [ce crackling ] [ knuckles cracking ] and who are you supposed to be, back-up? handle it. what you looking at? ha!...
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. >>> plus, the people of egypt trying to avoid trading one dictator for another. fighting back against a president who gave himself new powers. tonight a potential crisis point as the leader tries to put himself above the law. and how will the u.s. handle this? >>> plus, the chances of winning are ridiculously low. but millions of us are still lining up for a shot at a record powerball jackpot. >> lucky, lucky, lotto win. >> shepard: tonight a look at the actual odds of winning it all. but first from fox this tuesday night, three republican senators now say they cannot support the u.n. ambassador, susan rice, for secretary of state. at least until they get more answers about her comments about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. president obama has not yet even nominated her. but the white house says she is enormously qualified. senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte say they're even more troubled now after meeting with ambassador rice. the attack on libya on september 11 killed the u.s. ambassador, cries stevens and three other americans.
. >>> plus, the people of egypt trying to avoid trading one dictator for another. fighting back against a president who gave himself new powers. tonight a potential crisis point as the leader tries to put himself above the law. and how will the u.s. handle this? >>> plus, the chances of winning are ridiculously low. but millions of us are still lining up for a shot at a record powerball jackpot. >> lucky, lucky, lotto win. >> shepard: tonight a look at the actual...
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>>reporter: birth place of egypt revolution. today once again rippinging with calls to the did you know fall of a dictator. this time it's for this man. president mohammad morsi whom america rae lies on to be a regional peace broker but last week he granted himself unchecked power. him if leaving to bloody clashes. the crowd is planting leave. these are the seam chant 2 years ago during the refuse lugs except that they have substituted mubarak for morsi. the egyptian topple president mubarak. dictator who ruled for 3 decade. they then held a historic election. voted in the new president. now fichlt he's like a super power. >>reporter: the office says the move is just temporary. side lined remnant of the era app put he script on the right track. it's far from within who will win the show did you know but certainly more bloody days ahead on egypt bumpy road to democracy. this is cairo. >> president obama today signed a law that requires u.s. airline to be secluded from fe fees for european carbon emission. air leaps fought the pro
>>reporter: birth place of egypt revolution. today once again rippinging with calls to the did you know fall of a dictator. this time it's for this man. president mohammad morsi whom america rae lies on to be a regional peace broker but last week he granted himself unchecked power. him if leaving to bloody clashes. the crowd is planting leave. these are the seam chant 2 years ago during the refuse lugs except that they have substituted mubarak for morsi. the egyptian topple president...
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egypt truly matters. if that becomes an islamic authoritarian regime it will have a significant impact on those other countries. bill: you believe we are losing ground in the battle with islamists and they are gaining more power. that's not something people wanted to see after the arab spring. but you believe the window of opportunity in developing a more modern arab world is closing. when you think about that, you think about the sacrifice that happened in afghanistan. and happened in iraq, and we are not take advantage of that? have you seen that play out? >> right now it's playing out against us and against mostly what we are talking about here is the people in the middle east. the drivers of instability are political and social injustice and lack of economic opportunity. that's what these reformers are seeking. that's -- it seems to me it's something we should be helping them to achieve. if we are not involved in that process the islamists and the radicals are going to have undue influence and that's
egypt truly matters. if that becomes an islamic authoritarian regime it will have a significant impact on those other countries. bill: you believe we are losing ground in the battle with islamists and they are gaining more power. that's not something people wanted to see after the arab spring. but you believe the window of opportunity in developing a more modern arab world is closing. when you think about that, you think about the sacrifice that happened in afghanistan. and happened in iraq,...
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egypt, the policy of the western world was egypt by propping up mubarak to have stability, quote, unquote, was account of greenspan stability we have, that kind of pseudo moderation. things were brewing under the surface and now we pay the price after 40 years of sadat and the other fellow. so now we have to pay the price. what's going to happen? nobody knows. even the players don't know. we still don't know. i don't think it is going -- we're going to move to democracy overnight. we're going to have turmoil. i don't know what's going to happen but that's identical to the trying to eliminate overstabilization of something makes it weaker. that's what we have in egypt. >> the key message is you need volatility, you need stressors in the system, and you need companies and you need markets who can survive those stressors and thrive by them. >> exactly. we need to encourage people to take certain classes of risk. we need more small fluctuation and fewer big crises. in fact we have the exact opposite. things are smooth but with big -- >> very quickly. you said four rules. can you give them qui
egypt, the policy of the western world was egypt by propping up mubarak to have stability, quote, unquote, was account of greenspan stability we have, that kind of pseudo moderation. things were brewing under the surface and now we pay the price after 40 years of sadat and the other fellow. so now we have to pay the price. what's going to happen? nobody knows. even the players don't know. we still don't know. i don't think it is going -- we're going to move to democracy overnight. we're going...
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. >>> in egypt, more angry protests in cairo against president mohammed morsi and his decree granting himself nearly absolute power. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square. >>> four female soldiers who served tours in iraq or afghanistan filed a federal lawsuit yesterday trying to force the pentagon to end a ban on women serving in combat jobs. the suit says service women have often found themselves in combat without receiving the same rewards or opportunities for promotion. >>> a federal judge is ordering big tobacco companies to run ads saying they deliberately deceived the american public about the health effects of smoking. appeals are expected. >>> and prince william and his wife kate who became the duke and duchess of cambridge on their wedding day last year made their first official visit to cambridge this morning. the couple are meeting with students from cambridge university. they will also visit a homeless charity and hospital. >>> here's how wall street will kick off the day. the dow fell 89 points yesterday. the s&p was down seven. the nasdaq lost nine. overseas mar
. >>> in egypt, more angry protests in cairo against president mohammed morsi and his decree granting himself nearly absolute power. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square. >>> four female soldiers who served tours in iraq or afghanistan filed a federal lawsuit yesterday trying to force the pentagon to end a ban on women serving in combat jobs. the suit says service women have often found themselves in combat without receiving the same rewards or opportunities for...
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of egypt's revolution once again ringing with calls for the downfall of a dictator. this time it's for this man, president mohamed morsi, whom america relies on to be a regional peace broker. last week he granted himself unchecked power, leading to today's bloody clashes. the crowd is chanting the same chants we heard two years ago during the revolution, except that they have substituted mubarak for morsi. egyptians toppled president hosni mubarak, a dictator who ruled for three decades. they then held a historic election, voted in the new president, and now -- >> he's like a pharoah. >> reporter: morsi's office says the move is just temporary, to sideline remnants of the mubarak era and put egypt on the right track. the wise voices say it is far from clear who will win the showdown. but there are certainly more bloody days ahead on egypt's bumpy road to democracy. >> we said it often here, watching the arab spring take shape over the last, you know, year and a half year or so. the overthrow is the hard part -- the easy part. the hard part is building a real democrac
of egypt's revolution once again ringing with calls for the downfall of a dictator. this time it's for this man, president mohamed morsi, whom america relies on to be a regional peace broker. last week he granted himself unchecked power, leading to today's bloody clashes. the crowd is chanting the same chants we heard two years ago during the revolution, except that they have substituted mubarak for morsi. egyptians toppled president hosni mubarak, a dictator who ruled for three decades. they...
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in egypt, more angry protests in cairo against president morsi and his decree granting himself nearly absolute power. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square. >>> four female soldiers who served tours in afghanistan filed a federal lawsuit yesterday trying to force the pentagon to he said a ban on women serving in combat jobs. the suit says service women have often found themselves in combat without receiving the same rewards or opportunities for promotion. >>> a federal judge is ordering bringing tobacco countries to run ads saying they deliberately deceived the public about the health effects of smoking. appeals are expected. >>> and the kate middleton opened a new gallery while debuting a new face framing hair do. layers there. maybe a little lighter, too. her royal highness got up close and personal with rare first editions of on the origin of species and birds of america. >>> and now here is your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. the "chicago sun-times" reports former illinois congressman jesse jackson jr. may have been tipped off about the federal pr
in egypt, more angry protests in cairo against president morsi and his decree granting himself nearly absolute power. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square. >>> four female soldiers who served tours in afghanistan filed a federal lawsuit yesterday trying to force the pentagon to he said a ban on women serving in combat jobs. the suit says service women have often found themselves in combat without receiving the same rewards or opportunities for promotion. >>> a federal...
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egypt has taken it up a notch. florida-based pastor terry jones was also sentenced. most of them live in the united states, all are outside of egypt and are probably unlikely to ever face the sentence. they say the court found the defendants guilty of harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking islam and spreading false information through the film that mocks the profi prophet muhammad. >> a senator saying it is immoral to have big pay disparities. he says hedge fund managers make as much in a couple of minutes as navy seals do in an entire year and is arguing to a progressive group that that is wrong, morally, socially and he says it's destructive and tears apar aeu a part what holds us together. with all due respect to the navy seals, he's right they don't get paid enough. his report is that it's socially wrong and it's immoral for there to be a pay disparity like that in this country. monica your thoughts. >> first of all the united states was built on the idea of equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. what you have now, megyn is a modern de
egypt has taken it up a notch. florida-based pastor terry jones was also sentenced. most of them live in the united states, all are outside of egypt and are probably unlikely to ever face the sentence. they say the court found the defendants guilty of harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking islam and spreading false information through the film that mocks the profi prophet muhammad. >> a senator saying it is immoral to have big pay disparities. he says hedge fund managers...
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let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's brokered a deal. the second day he's under assault by the very people in the street who swept him into power. how do you assess what's going on and our capacity to nudge him toward maintaining a democratic framework? >> the nudging is being done by members of the international monetary fund and individuals saying to egypt if you want money for your country to thrive, you have to backtrack a little. one of the interesting dynamics going on here is that as difficult as morsi's actions the other day were to swallow for those of us who live in a democracy, the judiciary there is really not blameless either. they dissolved one of the houses of parliament there. there is a threat they may do it to the other legislative body. i do think that morsi might be -- his power grab might be unseemly and undemocratic but there is something nefarious going on by the other branch. >> eliot: his power grab
let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's brokered a deal. the second day he's under assault by the very people in the street who swept him into power. how do you assess what's going on and our capacity to nudge him toward maintaining a democratic framework? >> the nudging is being done by members of the international monetary fund and individuals saying to egypt if you...
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. >>> and in egypt, cairo's tahrir square is a tinderbox as protests grow against president mohamed morsi. more than 200,000 people jammed the square to protest morsi's layton power grab last week. the crowd chanting for morsi to leave, echoing the call from the revolution that tossed hosni mubarak. >>> an investigation has revealed that the factory made clothes for walmart, sears and our parent company, disney. and there have been three factory officials suspected of locking the doors, dooming those workers inside. 112 people died in the fire. >>> the tampa socialite caught up in the petraeus sex scandal is now fighting back. attorneys for jill kelley are going after a new york man, who claimed kelley tried to use her connection to petraeus to broker a deal. this morning's "new york times" reports the investigation into e-mails between kelley and general john allen, are only about 70 messages of the thousands the 2 exchanged. >>> bob dole is expected to be released from a washington area hospital this morning, after undergoing a routine procedure. dole ran for president against bill clin
. >>> and in egypt, cairo's tahrir square is a tinderbox as protests grow against president mohamed morsi. more than 200,000 people jammed the square to protest morsi's layton power grab last week. the crowd chanting for morsi to leave, echoing the call from the revolution that tossed hosni mubarak. >>> an investigation has revealed that the factory made clothes for walmart, sears and our parent company, disney. and there have been three factory officials suspected of locking...
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. >>> in news of the world tonight, in egypt, tens of thousands are protests in tehrere square. some accuse mr. morsi of high jacking the revolution. >>> behind blue tarps the remains of arafatt were exhumed. samples were taken to try to determine if arafat was poisoned. three separate forensic teams will examine them. arafat died eight years ago. tests have shown traces of a lethal radio active substance. >>> in greece, the money is on the way to save the country from bankruptcy. european financial backers agreed to release $57 million in loans that greece needs to stabilize its economy. greece leaders applauded the deal saying a dark time has ended but the loans will not mean an end to austerity measures including larger taxes and smaller wages. >>> time magazine announced their candidates for person of the year. they named marissa mayer, undocumented immigrants, mohammed morsi, psy is also on the list. and the mars rover is another nominee. the winner will be announced on december 14th. >>> the project now under way to light up the bay bridge. >> plus -- >> the elevated breas
. >>> in news of the world tonight, in egypt, tens of thousands are protests in tehrere square. some accuse mr. morsi of high jacking the revolution. >>> behind blue tarps the remains of arafatt were exhumed. samples were taken to try to determine if arafat was poisoned. three separate forensic teams will examine them. arafat died eight years ago. tests have shown traces of a lethal radio active substance. >>> in greece, the money is on the way to save the country...
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. >>> protests against egypt's new president are intensifying. a short time ago, state tv announced the country's highest appeals court has defended the protests against the decrees. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square yesterday. the protestors are upset about the edict that the president's decisions are above judicial review. >>> 34 people were killed in syria where two-car bombs went off simultaneously. dozens more are reported injured. today's attacks happened in a city that's provided a refuge for pro-government syrians displaced in the civil war. >>> 5. 19 now. tomorrow is the deadline for oakland police to come up with a reform plan to prevent a government takeover. the oakland police officers union has told a federal judge that department leadership is infective and failed to implement reforms that were ordered by the courts. the judge will have a hearing next month and then decide whether federal officials should take over their police department. >>> quick thinking by a san jose school bus driver saved a disabled student's life
. >>> protests against egypt's new president are intensifying. a short time ago, state tv announced the country's highest appeals court has defended the protests against the decrees. more than 200,000 people packed tahrir square yesterday. the protestors are upset about the edict that the president's decisions are above judicial review. >>> 34 people were killed in syria where two-car bombs went off simultaneously. dozens more are reported injured. today's attacks happened in...
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president morsist says he has to takes the action action becausitis egypt's judiciary that's stalling the it's shaping out -- caught in the midding are supporters every both sides, the liberal and secular state say it's on the wrong side, but the president and supporters say he has the pourer, authority and justification to take these measures. >>> as we look at some of the pictures ayman, thank you. >>> we're being blown around by some headlines here. we've had great numbers on housing. here's what happened, right about here. came out below expectations. this is some of the negative data points. i was a little surprised by it. the market was, too. then we want representative boehner come out saying he was optimistic. so we're getting blown around by the headlines. downbeat september and october new home sales numbers. let's talk about retail. things are looking good in retail land. american eagle, all had generally positive comments this morning is consumers continues to spend, home prices are rising. holiday promotions have not been expensive, the cost of goods are lower than last y
president morsist says he has to takes the action action becausitis egypt's judiciary that's stalling the it's shaping out -- caught in the midding are supporters every both sides, the liberal and secular state say it's on the wrong side, but the president and supporters say he has the pourer, authority and justification to take these measures. >>> as we look at some of the pictures ayman, thank you. >>> we're being blown around by some headlines here. we've had great numbers...
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egypt has replaced one dictator with another. this time it is worse. brett, obama came out it was in the "new york times" saying he was impressed with the new president's confidence. a day later morsy basically the clerk himself above the law. what do you make of that? >> it is hilarious except for the fact of it is tragic for egyptians. it is very clear where this is going. it has been a constant amazement to see this administration constantly giving the brotherhood the benefit of the dow pretending it will be anything other than an organization, a 83-year-old organization. we ought to know who these guys are, how they are trained, and what they are aiming at. the administration was caught a little flat-footed, dennis. dennis: why is it that the u.s. government, the media, are we guilty of wishful thinking? >> this is actually a profound mystery. over the last few years, there have been some articles and magazines try to claim that the moslem brotherhood is a moderate organization. gerri ford was a moderate republican. by any standard that we would de
egypt has replaced one dictator with another. this time it is worse. brett, obama came out it was in the "new york times" saying he was impressed with the new president's confidence. a day later morsy basically the clerk himself above the law. what do you make of that? >> it is hilarious except for the fact of it is tragic for egyptians. it is very clear where this is going. it has been a constant amazement to see this administration constantly giving the brotherhood the benefit...
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. >> and here's a live look at this tahir square in egypt. clashes between police and protest yesterday after president mohammed to morsi granting himself broad powers. >> we will be right back. [ crickets chirping ] [ traffic passing ] ♪ [ music box: lullaby ] [ man on tv, indistinct ] es ] [ baby coos ] [ man announcing ] millions are still exposed to the dangers... of secondhand smoke... and some of them can't do anything about it. ♪ [ continues ] [ gasping ] [ female announcer ] nature exists on the grandest scale... ♪ ...and in the tiniest details. ♪ and sometimes both. nature valley granola thins pack the big taste of granola and dark chocolate into one perfect square, under 100 calories. nature valley granola thins. nature at its most delicious. (car horn) paying with your smartphone instead of cash... (phone rings) that's a step forward. with chase quickpay, you can send money directly to anyone's checking account. i guess he's a kicker... again, again! oh, no you don't! take a step forward and chase what matters. >> it is 5:3
. >> and here's a live look at this tahir square in egypt. clashes between police and protest yesterday after president mohammed to morsi granting himself broad powers. >> we will be right back. [ crickets chirping ] [ traffic passing ] ♪ [ music box: lullaby ] [ man on tv, indistinct ] es ] [ baby coos ] [ man announcing ] millions are still exposed to the dangers... of secondhand smoke... and some of them can't do anything about it. ♪ [ continues ] [ gasping ] [ female...
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about what's happening in egypt and gaza. we'll get right to it but first this is the "full court press." >> on this wednesday, other headlines making news, annual year-end lists are starting to come out. "gq" -- >> already? >> yes. "gq" has put out something different. the 25 least influential people of 2012. >> love it. >> they call these people so uninspiring that they should be rounded up and put on an iceberg. most important to us on that list, mitt romney! >> i knew he was going to be there on there. >> also on there madonna celebrity chef guy fieri jerry sandusky's attorney, george zimmerman and lance armstrong and carlson. least influential people of the year. >> i don't agree with all of those. mitt romney simply belongs there. >> bill: i have never seen a candidate thrown under the bus so fast by his own party than mitt romney. >> yeah. >> he did help with the gifts. >> bill: do you think romney will ever be seen as a republican for the republican party? >> even late night tv. >> the bing search engine released its
about what's happening in egypt and gaza. we'll get right to it but first this is the "full court press." >> on this wednesday, other headlines making news, annual year-end lists are starting to come out. "gq" -- >> already? >> yes. "gq" has put out something different. the 25 least influential people of 2012. >> love it. >> they call these people so uninspiring that they should be rounded up and put on an iceberg. most important to us...
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of these protests that toppled one leader after another friend to me sierra -- tunisia, to yemen, to egypt. host: this is from maverick, who says republicans would prefer john kerry, freeing up space for scott brown. susan rice has degrees from stanford and oxford. patty, republican caller. caller: i wonder if this gentleman is aware that cnn had no problem going into this embassy to find documents. it was deliberate that did not send in the fbi to investigate. this was right before an election, and this gentleman is not sure why it took so long? also, c-span should have done some in depth shows before the election. i am disappointed in how you protected president obama in comparison to the-shows when president bush was president. part of the problem in ameritech is -- in america is the media should put under their caption white house stenographer. there was also a laser with where the attacks were, and that is why he got killed. he was an absolute hero. guest: there is concern with talking points in the mainstream media, as it is called, but in my defense i have written very critical thin
of these protests that toppled one leader after another friend to me sierra -- tunisia, to yemen, to egypt. host: this is from maverick, who says republicans would prefer john kerry, freeing up space for scott brown. susan rice has degrees from stanford and oxford. patty, republican caller. caller: i wonder if this gentleman is aware that cnn had no problem going into this embassy to find documents. it was deliberate that did not send in the fbi to investigate. this was right before an...